Why The Fed Is Rooting for a Housing Market Correction

Dave:
Hi there, everybody, and welcome to On The Market. I’m your host, Dave Meyer. And in the present day, we’re going to discuss huge information within the investing world. Principally, what occurred on the Federal Reserve assembly final week. In the event you haven’t heard but, they raised charges, however after all, that was fairly broadly anticipated and was not the massive information. However what did occur on high of that headline information was actually necessary and offers us in all probability the clearest image but that we now have seen during the last couple of months of the place the Fed is desiring to go.
I’m undecided if everybody listening to this is aware of this, however on high of simply elevating the federal funds fee, which they did, 75 foundation factors, additionally they have a press convention, which is absolutely intently adopted by buyers and nerds like me. They usually additionally launch one thing referred to as the Abstract of Financial Projections, the place the Fed truly tells you the place they assume the economic system goes and what they’re desiring to do about it. And never lots of people take a look at that, which I feel they need to as a result of the Federal Reserve, as we discuss on the present on a regular basis, the Federal Reserve units the foundations for the complete investing world, not simply actual property investing, however the inventory market and bonds as effectively. And if the Federal Reserve is telling you what they assume goes to occur and what they intend to do about it, you need to in all probability concentrate.
However I do know not everybody desires to learn by means of that. So I did, and I’ll inform you what’s in there and offer you a few of my opinion and another evaluation about what this Fed announcement means for actual property buyers as a result of they’ve been elevating charges for the final couple of months. However, to me, this assembly was in all probability probably the most impactful for the way forward for the housing market, let’s say the subsequent six, 12, 18 months, than any of the opposite conferences. And I’ll inform you why about that in a minute, however that’s why we’re going to do that present in the present day. That’s why we’re going to go deep into this matter. So that you’re positively going to need to stick round for this. However first, we’re going to take an actual fast break.
All proper, let’s simply begin with the plain right here, which is about rates of interest. Principally, the Fed raised the federal funds fee, which, once more, I simply need to make this clear that the federal funds fee and what they’re elevating isn’t mortgage charges. It’s probably not even a rate of interest that impacts any shopper straight. It’s truly a brief time period rates of interest that banks use to lend to 1 one other. And that is wonky, however it principally units just like the baseline rate of interest. After which, each different rate of interest, just like the yields on bonds, or what you pay for a mortgage, or a automotive mortgage, or bank cards are all indirectly primarily based on this federal funds fee. It’s principally the bottom rate of interest. And all the pieces else from there goes up primarily based on threat, and reward, and all kinds of issues like that.
So what occurred was the Fed raised this federal funds fee 75 foundation factors. And when you don’t need to know what a foundation level is, it’s only a bizarre approach of claiming 0.01%. So after I say 75 foundation factors, that principally means 0.75%. So it went from 2.5 to three.25, that’s 70… Excuse me, sorry. It went from… Yeah, did I say that proper? It went from 2.5 to three.25. That’s 75 foundation factors. And so, that’s the place it’s now. And the federal funds fee is definitely a spread. So now it sits between three and three.25%.
Now, that, once more, was form of apparent. Individuals truly thought there may be 100 foundation level hike after the latest inflation report as a result of that was a lot larger than individuals have been anticipating. However the Fed determined to pursue a extra predictable course, I’d say, and simply did the 75 foundation level hike. That’s what individuals have been anticipating. They sometimes need to do one thing that’s not tremendous out of line with the market’s expectation, and that’s what they did. Not numerous information there.
However along with this fast hike, we now know that charges… And that is the necessary half. We now know that charges will possible climb larger within the coming months, and truly, into subsequent yr, into 2023. And also you may be questioning, how do I do know this? How do I do know what’s going to occur with charges? Effectively, the Fed simply tells us this. It’s not rocket science. I’m not trying right into a crystal ball. And like I stated on the high of the present, they launch one thing referred to as the abstract of financial projections. And after each assembly, they do that. And it tells you they put out expectations for inflation and financial progress. However what we’re in the present day is absolutely what their expectations are for financial coverage. Principally, the place are they going to set the federal funds fee.
And to me, a very powerful a part of this whole abstract of financial projections, at the least for what we’re speaking about in the present day, is called the dot plot. And the dot plot is principally a ballot for each Fed official who’s at these conferences, and it asks every particular person individual the place they assume rates of interest must be over the subsequent couple of years. So that they have a vote they usually say, “The place do you assume rates of interest are going to be in 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025?” They usually put all of it on a dot plot. However the dot plot is a bit bit complicated. I feel for our functions right here in the present day, it’s truly simply simpler to have a look at the median expectation. So, as an alternative of every particular person expectation of every Fed official, let’s simply take the typical of what Fed officers assume is coming over the subsequent couple of years. And principally, what that reveals is that the individuals who make this resolution, that the Fed officers are the individuals who determine the place the federal funds charges go, they usually count on it to go as much as 4.4% by the top of 2022.
Now, bear in mind, we simply skilled our third 75 foundation level hike in a row. And it’s saying that we’re nonetheless going to go about 125 extra foundation factors by the top of the yr. In order that may very well be one other 75 level hike after which a 50 level hike. There’s two extra conferences this yr. In order that’s in all probability what is going to occur. I feel that’s the most certainly situation. So going up considerably extra by the top of 2022. After which the Fed thinks it’s going even larger in 2023. The median there may be 4.6%, so not a lot larger. It sounds just like the Fed is considering that what they’re going to do is increase charges aggressively by means of the top of the yr, after which a bit bit extra in 2023, however not rather more.
In the event you’re questioning across the out years, 2024 and 2025, they do have it coming right down to someplace round 4% in 2024, after which dropping all the best way right down to beneath 3% in 2025.
Now, nobody is aware of what’s going to occur, proper? In the event you watch the press convention with Jerome Powell, he principally stated he doesn’t know what’s going to occur. So I don’t put numerous inventory in what’s happening in 2024 and 2025. There’s simply too many variables. That’s principally the Fed saying they need to get again finally to what they might name a impartial rate of interest. When rates of interest are tremendous low like they’ve been for many of the final 10 years, that’s referred to as straightforward cash. We are actually coming into a territory the place it’s tight cash, the place it’s exhausting to borrow. However the Fed has this obscure idea of impartial the place it’s similar to the correct amount so there’s not inflation, however there’s financial progress. And that’s what they assume the two.75, 3% fee is. And so, that’s the place they need to get to finally. However I feel we must always take very significantly what is going on and what they’re saying they’re going to do for the remainder of this yr and into subsequent yr.
So I don’t know what’s going to occur. Nobody does. However the one knowledge that we now have is that the Fed says they’re going to lift charges for the remainder of this yr and a bit bit subsequent yr. And I’m going to take their phrase for it personally. I feel that’s going to occur. And better charges have actually huge implications for the housing market. However I simply need to say it is very important word that when I’m saying on this episode, excessive charges, I’m truly actually simply talking comparatively. And what I imply is that they’re excessive in a relative context. They’re excessive in comparison with all the pieces that we now have seen for the reason that Nice Recession. Because the Nice Recession for the overwhelming majority of the final 12 years, the federal funds fee has been at zero, proper? It’s been at zero.
So, sure, what if we now have a Fed funds fee now at 3.25 like we do, that’s low in comparison with the place we have been for many of the final century. However what issues right here is that it’s a shock to the system. It’s nonetheless low in a historic context. However when you go from zero to a few actually shortly like we now have, this may be fairly surprising to the economic system. And I do assume we’re going to see some shocks by means of the economic system. In order that’s what occurred with the federal funds fee.
The second factor I need to discuss is about mortgage charges as a result of that’s what actually goes to impression the housing market straight. And as I stated, the federal funds fee isn’t the mortgage fee. And I simply need to clarify what meaning. So the Fed funds fee, like I stated, impacts issues like bonds. And most significantly what we need to take into consideration right here is the yield on the 10-year treasury bond. That is principally a bond that the US authorities places out they usually pay an rate of interest on it. And yields, when the Fed funds fee goes up, yields on these bonds are inclined to rise for lots of causes I’m not going to get into in the present day, however simply know that that occurs.
And the explanation I’m mentioning it is because mortgage charges are tremendous intently tied to yields for the 10-year treasury. And so, we’re seeing yields go up all yr and that’s why mortgage charges are going up. So simply know that, that they’re principally tied to bonds. And what you need to take a look at, in case you are making an attempt to foretell the place mortgage charges are going to go, is that bonds are what issues right here, probably not the Fed fund charges.
So, my evaluation of what’s happening and primarily based on this evaluation is that mortgage charges are in all probability going to go up over the subsequent couple months. I wouldn’t be stunned, let’s say, if we see mortgage charges enter the low sevens over the subsequent couple of months, however I’m not anticipating charges to only maintain going up linearly. We’ve seen this actually aggressive rise in mortgage charges, however I feel that’s going to decelerate even regardless of this information that the Fed goes to lift charges into 2023. There are literally some analysts who thinks mortgage charges, even with this information, are going to go down subsequent yr. And let me clarify why.
At first, mortgage lenders, they’re ahead trying. It’s not like they’re sitting round being like, “Oh, the Fed might be going to maintain elevating charges all of 2022, however I’m going to maintain my mortgage charges which are depending on bond yields, and all the pieces else. I’m going to maintain them low and wait to see what the Fed does.” No, that’s completely not what they might do. That’s too dangerous. It’s simply dangerous enterprise. And so, what they do is that they base their mortgage charges primarily based on the place they assume rates of interest for bond yield, and the federal fund charges are going to be a number of years down the load. They need to have the ability to make cash even when the Fed raises charges into the longer term.
And so, they’ve been pricing these Fed raises into mortgage charges all yr. That’s why mortgage charges went up beginning in June. They didn’t look ahead to the 2 75 foundation factors hikes since we’ve had since June. They went up previous six or close to six again in June. And now, beginning a pair months in the past, in August, we have been beginning to see charges go up once more. And that’s as a result of individuals have been anticipating what occurred on this fed assembly. So it’s not like swiftly the Fed publicizes that they’re elevating charges and mortgage brokers are like, “Oh, rattling. We acquired to catch up. We acquired to lift charges.” They’ve already finished this. They already did it. And so, now they’re, after all, going to regulate a bit bit. Yields and bonds are going to regulate primarily based on what the Fed stated, however they’ve already been fascinated about this and the changes are going to be smaller. And in these instances of uncertainty, mortgage brokers are going to err on the facet of warning and make charges go larger to cowl their foundation. They need to make it possible for they’ve good charges even when the Fed retains elevating charges even larger and better.
The second cause that I feel that mortgage charges should not going to only maintain skyrocketing is predicated on what I stated earlier than in regards to the 10-year treasury. They’re very, very intently correlated. For another stats nurse on the market, the correlation is close to one. It’s 0.98 from my evaluation. In order that simply means, when you’re questioning what meaning, is when one goes up, the opposite goes up, when one goes down, the opposite goes down. They’re very tied. They transfer in lockstep.
However, normally, in regular instances, for the final 70 years or so, the unfold between yields and mortgage charges, so the yield on a 10-year treasury and the mortgage fee is about 170 foundation factors or 1.7%. So mortgage charges are at all times larger than the bond yield. And the explanation the unfold exists is predicated on a financial institution’s enterprise. If you’re a financial institution and you’ve got hundreds of thousands or billions of {dollars} to lend, you must determine how you can lend it to individuals. You possibly can lend it to me as a house purchaser or you may also lend it to the US authorities within the type of a bond. In any case, that’s what a bond is. You’re principally lending the US authorities cash and they’re going to pay you again with curiosity.
And so, if the financial institution is saying, “Hey, yields on the 20-year treasury are going up, so I can earn practically 4% on a pattern yr treasury.” And the federal government bond is taken into account by just about everybody the most secure funding in the complete world. The US authorities at all times pays them. They’ve by no means defaulted. They at all times pay. And so, it’s thought-about the most secure funding. So when you go to a financial institution and also you’re like, “Hey, you may earn 4% with just about no threat,” the financial institution is like, “Yeah, that’s fairly good.” So then after I go and ask for a mortgage and I’m like, “Hey, can I get a mortgage?” They’re not going to lend to me at 4% as a result of I’m not as credit score worthy because the US authorities. So that they’re going to cost a premium to me as a result of though I pay my mortgage each single month, I as a person home-owner is, sadly, a bit much less credit score worthy than the US authorities. And so, they cost a premium. And that premium is normally 1.7%. So if a bond yield is about 4%, mortgage fee is about 1.7%.
However I did some evaluation, and what’s happening proper now could be that the unfold is definitely larger than it’s usually. It’s at 232 foundation factors, so about 2.3%. It’s usually at 1.7%. And that’s as a result of there’s all this uncertainty. We don’t know what’s happening with the Fed. We don’t know what’s happening with inflation. Are we in a recession? What’s going to occur? So, mortgage lenders, like I stated, are bringing additional causes they usually’re growing the unfold between mortgages and bond yields. And that’s in all probability going to stay round for a short while. But when the Fed holds their line and does what they are saying they’re going to do and inflation does begin to come down, I feel individuals will begin to really feel a bit bit extra snug. And the unfold between bond yields and mortgages may begin to come down.
After all, bond yields might maintain going up much more, however once more, bond yields have largely priced in these Fed selections. So these two issues make me really feel that, though I do count on charges to go up, they’re not going to go up like loopy as a result of we might have some reversion to the imply with the unfold between bonds and mortgages. And numerous this has already been priced in for months.
That’s the reason Mark Zandi… You could have heard of him. He works for Moody’s Analytics. He’s one of the vital outstanding economists on the earth. And he expects, even after this week’s information, he expects the typical fee for a 30-year fastened fee mortgage to be 5.5% in 2023. He truly thinks it’s going to come back down. So that may occur. I don’t actually know. I’m not an skilled in bond yields. I’m not an skilled in mortgage costs, however I do assume these two issues do counsel that, though they in all probability will go up, once more, I wouldn’t be stunned if we get into the sevens, that we’re in all probability not going to see this linear mortgage fee progress like we’ve seen over the primary three quarters of this yr proceed all through this yr and into 2023.
Okay. To date we’ve talked about rates of interest, mortgage charges. Now, let’s discuss in regards to the Feds focus as a result of this, to me, was actually telling what occurred within the press convention afterwards. And nerds like me, financial reporters, finance individuals, all love the press convention as a result of Jerome Powell, he will get up there, he reads some fastidiously ready assertion, and it’s all like a recreation. The Fed has an unlimited duty on the earth. They dictate a lot of economic markets and economies, they usually’re very cautious about what they are saying. Individuals rely what number of instances he says recession. Or again after they have been saying calling inflation transitory, they might rely what number of instances he stated transitory to attempt to perceive what’s going to occur subsequent. So individuals make this big recreation out of it. It’s form of ridiculous.
However the cause I feel this it’s necessary to notice proper now could be as a result of the press convention yesterday, or two days in the past… And once more, it will come out every week from now, so that you’ll hear this every week after, however I’m recording this two days after this information got here out. Jerome Powell, he was fairly darn clear about what he’s anticipating, clearer than he normally is. And I feel he stated some issues that have been actually noteworthy that inform us the Fed’s intention and the place they’re going to go.
So, in the course of the press convention, a Washington Publish reporter, named Rachel Siegel, identified to Powell that the Fed’s personal abstract of financial projections… Bear in mind, that’s that knowledge that they simply give out after they meet. They’re predicting now that unemployment over the subsequent two years goes to rise to 4.4%. And that may be a fee at which generally brings a few recession. Bear in mind, we aren’t technically in a recession. By many individuals’s definition of a recession, we’re, however the Nationwide Bureau of Financial Analysis has not formally declared us in a recession but. However this reporter was declaring to Jerome Powell that the Fed is principally predicting a recession.
Right here’s what the chairman stated again. And I’m going to paraphrase briefly right here, however he stated, “We’ve got at all times understood that restoring value stability,” which as an apart simply means lowering inflation. So he says, “We’ve got at all times understood that restoring value stability whereas reaching a comparatively modest improve in unemployment and a mushy touchdown could be very difficult. And we don’t know, nobody is aware of whether or not this course of will result in a recession, or in that case, how important that recession could be.”
And I do know that’s numerous mumbo jumbo, however principally, what the Fed chairman, the man answerable for the economic system simply stated is, “We predict that controlling inflation goes to result in at the least modest will increase in unemployment and nobody is aware of if it’s going to deliver a few recession or how dangerous the recession could be.” He’s principally saying we have to deliver down inflation and we don’t care if unemployment goes up a bit, and we don’t care if it goes right into a recession as a result of inflation is such an issue that we now have to pursue this.
Now, in the present day, I don’t need to get right into a debate whether or not inflation or recession is extra necessary. Everybody has their very own opinion about that. I’m simply need to inform you what he’s saying and my interpretation of that. In order that’s principally what he’s saying is like, “We’re going for it. We’re sending it. We’re going to maintain elevating charges. Recession be damned. Rising unemployment be damned.” However I do assume it is very important word that he was principally saying if unemployment begins to get actually dangerous, that’s after they would again off. However 4.4%, which is a fairly good improve from the place we’re in the present day, they’re snug with that. So, nobody is aware of, however that’s principally what they stated.
Because it pertains to housing and the necessity for the housing market to chill off, Jerome Powell acknowledged, and I quote, “What we’d like is provide and demand to get higher aligned in order that housing costs will go up at an affordable degree, at an affordable tempo, and that folks can afford homes once more. And I feel we in all probability, within the housing market, must undergo a correction to get again to that value.” Okay. What does that imply? It means Gerald Powell is planning on a housing correction. And personally, I feel that’s what they need. A giant a part of inflation has been shelter inflation, each by way of rents and housing costs. And I feel Powell and the Fed know that to get inflation underneath management, they want housing to go down. So he’s principally saying, “Yeah, I do know. Housing market might be going to chill and possibly going to go detrimental sooner or later on a nationwide foundation, and we’re cool with that.” Principally, all informed, the Fed is saying, “Sure, we’re prepared to threat a recession. Sure, we’re prepared to threat job losses. And sure, we’re prepared to see housing market correction to be able to deliver down inflation.”
In the event you simply learn the transcript and I like to recommend you do, we will put a hyperlink to it right here, he desires this. That is the way you deliver down inflation, is you get costs to come back down and also you get individuals to cease spending cash. So he desires a recession. He desires job losses. He desires a cooler housing market as a result of that might deliver inflation underneath management. After all, the Fed might change their thoughts, however this press convention, he stated, in very clear phrases, that they’re going to carry the road inflation. They’re going to maintain charges excessive there in all probability, even going to lift charges, even when that is going to trigger all of the issues that I simply stated.
In order that’s my interpretation of Jerome Powell’s speech, is he was not pulling any punches. He’s not messing round. He’s telling us all in very clear phrases what to anticipate. And, to me, that’s excessive charges, housing market cooling considerably, in all probability going detrimental in numerous markets, not each market, however in numerous markets. We’re in all probability going to see unemployment go up. And we’re in all probability going to see a recession formally, though we’re not formally in a single but.
All in all, all the pieces we’ve talked about in the present day, principally, why I wished to make this present and why I feel that is so important is as a result of over the course of this yr, over the course of 2022, many buyers have been hoping for a Fed “pivot.” And principally, numerous buyers had this idea that the Fed would increase charges up to a degree the place it might gradual issues down. The housing market would cool prefer it has been. Firms would in all probability be hiring much less and issues would begin to cool off. However they wouldn’t threat a deep recession, or numerous job losses, or big crash within the housing market, and they might maintain it round two and a half, 3% kind of that impartial Fed funds fee that I used to be speaking about.
However, to me, this press convention simply fully kills that idea a few pivot. The Fed is extraordinarily cautious. And they’re very deliberate about what they are saying. And in the event that they have been holding their choices open for a pivot, they wouldn’t have stated the stuff that Jerome Powell stated yesterday. The info it shares, all the pieces they stated proper now could be that they’re going to remain aggressive within the struggle towards deflation even when it causes financial ache elsewhere within the economic system. And that’s what we must always count on.
Probably the most notable implication of all that is for housing costs. And everyone knows by now that as charges have risen during the last couple of months, demand within the housing market is beginning to drop off, and costs, that’s placing downward strain on costs. We’ve talked about that so much within the reveals. Most just lately, we’re seeing numerous West coast markets begin to decline. Most haven’t but, as of this recording, that is the top of September, haven’t but declined year-over-year, however just a few, San Francisco and San Jose, have. And that’s the place we’re.
That’s stated, I feel, over the course of this yr, the housing market has truly held up surprisingly effectively to downward strain. We’ve seen charges double. Yeah, we’re seeing costs come off their June highs and their down month-over-month, however year-over-year, virtually each main market is up. And that’s what I assumed. The [inaudible 00:25:39] market is resilient. There are numerous causes, basic explanation why the housing market is resilient, even within the face of the rising charges that we’ve seen thus far.
However now, figuring out {that a} mortgage charges are going to remain excessive for the foreseeable future goes to be a a lot larger check than what we’ve seen thus far. As a result of, if there was a pivot and charges peaked and other people might get adjusted to that and perhaps come down a bit bit, then the housing market, I feel it was in all probability going to carry up fairly effectively and you might perhaps have a good yr in 2023. However now, I imply when you have been going to have a yr and a half of mortgage charges above 5 and a half, perhaps as much as 7%, to me, that’s going to place much more housing markets in danger for declines. And so, I feel everybody must maintain that in thoughts. 2023, proper now, at the least on a nationwide degree, is trying like a flat yr at finest, and is extra possible a down yr, even on a nationwide degree, is what I’m beginning to assume, by subsequent summer season. I don’t assume it’s going to come back within the subsequent couple months, however I don’t know, I actually don’t. These are simply my musings that I’m sharing with you proper now.
And the explanation I say that is simply because affordability within the housing promote it’s simply too low. We did a complete episode when you haven’t listened to that about affordability, however it’s at 40 yr lows. Which means it’s tougher proper now for the typical American to purchase the typical priced dwelling than it has been for the reason that ’80s. And that’s not sustainable in my thoughts. And there’s principally two ways in which we might enhance affordability. One is charges begin to come down as a result of that makes properties extra inexpensive. However we simply acquired informed that charges aren’t coming down. And so, the one different approach for properties to turn into extra inexpensive, aside from huge wage progress, which we aren’t going to see, is that housing costs begin to come down and make properties extra inexpensive. And so, that’s why I feel there’s going to be this sustained downward strain on the housing market.
And I need to be clear that even given all of this information, I nonetheless don’t assume we’re heading for a crash. And I outline that as a declines at a nationwide degree of greater than 20%. I don’t assume that’s going to occur. The credit score high quality remains to be good. Stock is definitely beginning to degree off. Individuals who know extra about this than I do, skilled forecasters, assume that, actually, the draw back, the most important draw back is someplace round 10%, as in on a nationwide degree. We don’t know if that’s what’s going to occur, however it’s price noting that that’s what numerous specialists and individuals who forecast these items assume.
The second implication aside from housing costs is lease progress. And I feel, if we do see a recession, if we see job loss, these issues, mixed with inflation are in all probability going to reduce demand for flats. You see in all these adversarial financial situations, individuals transfer in with their associates and their household, and that’s referred to as like family drop declining. The whole variety of households individuals occupy a housing unit might go down, and that lessens demand.
It’s price noting that lease is fairly steady. It doesn’t actually fall that a lot even throughout a recession, however I feel rank progress is absolutely going to begin to come down. It already has in August. It was at 11% year-over-year, which remains to be actually insane, however approach decrease than it’s been during the last couple of years. So I feel that pattern goes to proceed.
After which, the third factor is that we might see improve foreclosures and evictions, however we’re nonetheless a great way off from that, proper? If there’s a recession, we don’t know if it’s going to be a foul one. We don’t know what’s entailed in that. And proper now, the information reveals that owners are paying their mortgages, renters are paying their lease. And so, I’m not instantly involved about that, however it’s clearly one thing we’ll control over the course of the subsequent yr to make it possible for if we see one thing that modifications, I’ll definitely let you realize.
So, that’s what I acquired for you in the present day. I simply need to say that I personally am nonetheless investing. I do assume that there are alternatives which are going to come back over the subsequent couple of months. We’re going to be engaged on some extra reveals about how you can spend money on 2023, totally different methods which are going to work, totally different methods to keep away from, alternatives that may current themselves. So positively keep tuned for that. We’re going to have much more 2023 planning content material on this podcast over the subsequent couple of months, however that’s what I’ve for you in the present day. Hopefully, you guys perceive this.
In the event you’re on this, I do advocate at the least watch the press convention with Jerome Powell and see what he was speaking about. You possibly can take a look at the abstract of financial projections and take a look at a few of the knowledge that the Fed is sharing with you. These are issues that you need to know when you’re an investor, when you’re risking giant quantities of your cash and the Fed is that this lively they usually have a lot management over what occurs. In the event you have been me, I’d study as a lot as I can.
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